Debbie and Jackie get all controversial about the state of the world and have some laughs along the way.  Jackie explained "code switching" to Debbie while Jackie was on the way to her ultra white boyfriends' mom's house in the OC and she tells us exactly how she feels about it! It's heavy and hilarious all at the same time.  Enjoy!

This episode is with special guest John Lehr (Quickdraw, 10 items or less)!! Jackie Smith is busy working on the front lines so Debbie and John discuss all things quarantine/covid......online comedy, John's sordid life history, poker/gambling, John converting to judaism, etc.  John is hilarious and he was a great guest!  Enjoy!